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(@bohanan22)
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I’m technically not new here, but have not posted since the forum conversion.  I’m looking for a historical list of area course (opened and closed).  Additionally, I am looking for a list of green surfaces by course.

 

A number of years ago I downloaded a database @ArtMBGolf maintained and provided.  I would have started by PM’ing him, but as I said, I have “new” status which prohibited that…

 

I appreciate any help!

 

Brett


   
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BENT GREENS:
Crow Creek (V8 - New 2017) - Sea Trail (Maples) - Wizard - MOW
 
TIFEAGLE:
True Blue - Oyster Bay - Parkland - Blackmoor - Burning Ridge - Prestwick
Whispering Pines - Wach East - Oak Island - Aberdeen - Crown Park - Meadowlands 
2015: Thistle 2017: Tigers Eye 2018: Panthers Run - Sandpiper(Bay 9)
2020: Grande Dunes Members 2022: Grande Dunes Resort - River Hills
2023: Pawleys - Long Bay - Leopards Chase
2024-2026 Thistle (9 per year)
2024-2025 Kings North (9 per year)

CHAMPIONS:
Caledonia - Heritage - Legends (Heathland) - Willbrook - Compass Pointe
Brunswick - Sea Trail(Byrd) - River Oaks - Reserve Club Pawleys 
Magnolia Greens - River Club - BF Fazio - BF Norman
BF Love - BF Dye - Kings North (9 holes) - World Tour
2013: The Dunes - Carolina National
2016: ST Jones - Surf Club - Wachesaw Plantation
2018: Glen Dornoch - Moorland

MINI-VERDE:
TPC - Eagle Nest - MBN South - Eastport - Arrowhead - Sandpiper Bay(Sand,Piper)
DeBordieu - Bald Head Island - Hackler - Wild Wing - MBN West - Lions Paw - Pearl East
2014: Tidewater
2019: Pearl West

SUNDAY HYBRID: Rivers Edge 2015 - Lockwood 2016 - Arcadian Shores 2017
2018: Tradition - Int Club - Diamondback - Brick Landing - MW Pine Hills - Indigo Creek - SPB Bay 9
2019: Shaftesbury Glen - MW Palmetto - Cape Fear
2021: Pine Lakes

EMERALD: Founders Club At Pawleys

OLD TIFDWARF BERMUDA:
Litchfield - Carolina Shores - Azalea Sands - Beachwood - Colonial Charters - Wedgefield

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@artmbgolf, thank you!  Much appreciated.

 

You also had a list of course open dates, if applicable close dates, plus total number of courses.  Do you happen to have that one as well?


   
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I will post the date list later today.  
 
Are you on a project or for your curiosity? 

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@artmbgolf thank you again.

 

The opened/closed list is simply to have a historically accurate list and to remember changes.  Between my childhood and adulthood, I’ve been coming to the area since 1989.  As a kid I loved getting the annual On The Green magazine.  I used to thumb through those until the ink wore off.  As with others, I have played many closed courses.  Your list helps connect the dots with those memories.

 

The greens list is for knowledge and scoring purposes 😉


   
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MYRTLE BEACH GOLF COURSES -- CHRONOLOGICAL

YEAR ## COURSES OPENED
1927 1 Pine Lakes (originally Ocean Forest Club)
1948 2 The Dunes (hosted SR Tour Champ 1994-1999)
1960 3 Surf Club
1962 4 Whispering Pines
1966 7 Brierwood - Litchfield - Myrtlewood(Pine Hills)(Rebuilt in 1993)
1967 9 Sea Gull - Quail Creek
1968 12 Beachwood - Possum Trot - Robbers Roost
1971 15 Azalea Sands - Eagles Nest - Cypress Bay
1972 18 Bay Tree (Gold-Green-Silver)
1973 21 MB National (Kings North-West-Southcreek)(North rebuilt as Kings North in 1996)
1974 24 Arcadian Shores - Myrtlewood(Palmetto) - Wedgefield Plantation
1975 27.5 Waterway Hills (27) - Deer Track(Toski) - Carolina Shores
1976 29.5 Raccoon Run - Ocean Isle Beach
1978 "Year of Art's first MB trip."
1970s -- Built 17.5 Courses
 
1980 34 Burning Ridge(West) - Gator Hole - Island Green (27) 
             Marsh Harbour(Starts Upscale/Moves MB North)
1981 35 Deer Track(South)
1983 36 Oyster Bay
1984 37 Indian Wells
1985 39 River Club - Wachesaw Plantation (Private)
1986 41 Heritage Club - Burning Ridge(East)
1987 50 Heather Glen (27) - DeBordieu (Private) - River Oaks (27) - Pearl (East-West)
             Brick Landing - Sea Trail(Maples) - Sandpiper Bay (First 18)
1988 57 Lockwood Folly - Eastport - Colonial Charters - Long Bay - Willbrook
             Pawleys Plantation - Rolling Hills
1989 65.5 River Hills - Sea Trail(Jones) - Prestwick - The Witch - Ocean Harbour
                Heron Point - Black Bear - Aberdeen (27)
1980s -- Built 34 Courses
 
1990 71.5 Tidewater - Indigo Creek - Blackmoor - Legends(Heathland - Moorland)
                Sea Trail(Byrd)
1991 73.5 Lions Paw - Wild Wing(Woodstork)
1992 78 Wild Wing(Hummingbird) - Founders Club SJ - Brunswick (27) - Legends(Parkland)
1993 79 Wild Wing(Avocet)
1994 82.5 Wild Wing(Falcon) - Caledonia - Arrowhead (27)
1995 86.5 Tradition Club - Wicked Stick - Panthers Run - Belle Terre
1996 92.5 Angels Trace (36) - Man O War - The Wizard - Wachesaw East - Glen Dornoch
1997 96.5 Calabash - Meadowlands - Members Club - Players Club
1998 101.5 True Blue - Carolina National (27) - Winyah Bay - Magnolia Greens (27)
1999 109.5 TPC - Diamond Back - Rivers Edge - World Tour (27) - Thistle (27)
                  Reserve Club (Private) - Crow Creek
1990s -- Built 44 Courses
 
2000 114.5 NEW COURSES: Barefoot (Fazio-Love-Norman-Dye) - Tigers Eye - Inter Club
                                          Members Club SJ (New Cate 9) - SPB (New Bay 9)
                  COURSES CLOSED: Gator Hole - Ocean Harbour
                  New Tifeagle Greens: True Blue
2001 119 NEW COURSES: Farmstead - Grande Dunes - Shaftesbury Glen - Crown Park (27)
2002 119 "No New Courses opened for first time in 22 years."
                New Tifeagle Greens: Tidewater
2003 116.5 COURSES CLOSED: Marsh Harbour - Robbers Roost - Crown Park (closed 9 holes)
                  New Tifeagle Greens: Parkland, Blackmoor, Indian Wells
                  New Bent Greens: The Dunes, Sea Trail(Maples)
2004 116.5 New Tifeagle Greens: Moorland, Oyster Bay, Burning Ridge(East)
                  New Tifdwarf Greens: Myrtlewood(Pine Hills)
2005 110.5 NEW COURSES: Grande Dunes(Members)(private)
                 COURSES CLOSED: Winyah Bay - Raccoon Run - Ocean Isle Beach
                                              Burning Ridge(West) - Belle Terre - Calabash - Sea Gull
                 COURSE TURNS PRIVATE: Surf
                 New Tifdwarf Greens: Wedgefield
                 New Tifeagle Greens: Island Green
                 New Champions Greens: Caledonia, Long Bay
2006 100   NEW COURSES: Reserve Club ST James - Leopards Chase
                 COURSES CLOSED: Bay Tree (Green,Gold,Silver) - Angels Trace(North,South)
                    Wild Wing (Woodstork,Hummingbird,Falcon) - Island Green (Dogwood 9)
                    Deer Track (North,South) - Pine Lakes - Green Acres
                 New Bent Greens: Pearl (West)
                 New Champions Greens: Willbrook, Black Bear, Brunswick
2007 101  COURSES CLOSED: Eastport
                OLD COURSES ADDED: Oak Island - Bald Head Island
                New Champions Greens: Heathland, Heritage, River Oaks
                New Mini-Verde Greens: TPC
2008 103.5 NEW COURSES: Founders Club Pawleys (Formerly Sea Gull)
                 RE-OPENED: Eastport - WW Hummingbird 9
                 Renovated: Palmetto Greens (Formerly Colonial Charters), Eagle Nest
                 New Mini Verde Greens: MBN South, Eagle Nest, Eastport, Sandpiper (Sand 9)
2009 105.5 NEW COURSES: Pine Lakes (Rebuilt) - Cape Fear
                  Renovated: Tidewater - River Oaks(Otter 9)
                  New Mini Verde Greens: Sandpiper (Piper 9), Arrowhead
                  New Champions Greens: Sea Trail(Byrd)
                  New Paspalum Greens: Rivers Edge
2000s -- Built 16.5 Courses -- Closed 25 -- Rebuilt 4

2010 105.5 Renovated: River Oaks (Fox 9) - Bald Head Island (Rebuilt by Tim Cate)
                  New Mini Verde Greens: Sandpiper (Bay 9), Panthers Run, Bald Head Island
2011 105.5 New Mini Verde Greens: Quail Creek - WW Avocet - MBN West - Lions Paw
                                                     Brick Landing - Pearl East
                  New Champions Greens: Magnolia Greens - River Club - BF Fazio - BF Norman
2012 105.5 New Mini Verde Greens: World Tour
                  New Champions Greens: BF Love - BF Dye - Kings North - Grande Dunes Resort
                  New Tifeagle Greens: Prestwick - Meadowlands
                  New Bent Greens: Pearl West
2013 105 CLOSED: International 9 at World Tour
               New Champions Greens: The Dunes - Carolina National
2014 103 CLOSED: Cypress Bay - Heron Point
               New Champions Greens: Carolina National(IBIS)
               New MiniVerde Greens: Tidewater
               New Tifeagle Greens: Thistle (MacKay 9)
2015 100.5 CLOSED: Waterway Hills(27) - Wicked Stick
                  New Tifeagle Greens: Thistle (Stewart,Cameron)
                  New Sunday Greens: Rivers Edge
                  New Champions Greens: Black Bear
2016 98.5 CLOSED: Wedgefield - Island Green - Black Bear
                NEW: Compass Pointe
                New Sunday Greens: Lockwood
                New Champions Greens: ST Jones - Surf Club - Wachesaw Plantation
2017 96 CLOSED: Brierwood - Heather Glen (27)
             New Sunday Greens: Arcadian Shores
             New Tifeagle Greens: Tigers Eye
             New V8 Bent Greens: Crow Creek
2018 97 RE-OPENED: Wedgefield
             New Sunday Greens: Tradition - MW Pine Hills - International Club
                                             Indigo Creek - Diamond Back - Brick Landing
             New Tifeagle Greens: Panthers Run - SPB Bay 9
             New Champions Greens: Glen Dornoch - Moorland
2019 93.5 CLOSED: Possum Trot - Indian Wells - Brick Landing - Pearl East(Holes 3-11)
                New Sunday Greens: Shaft Glen - MW Palmetto - Cape Fear
                New Mini-Verde Greens: Pearl West
2020 93.5 New Tifeagle Greens: Grande Dunes Members (also new bunkers)
2021 91.5 CLOSED: Aberdeen (Woodlands 2-8) - Farmstead - The Witch - River Oaks(Bear 9)
                RE-OPENED: Brick Landing (Community owned - New Greens)
                New Sunday Greens: Pine Lakes (also new bunkers)
2022 91.5 New Tifeagle Greens + New Bunkers: Grande Dunes Resort - River Hills
2023 91.5 New Tifeagle Greens + New Bunkers: Pawleys - Long Bay(Greens)
                New Tifeagle Greens: Leopards Chase
2024 91.5 New Tifeagle Greens: Kings North(Front 9) - St Byrd - Thistle(Cameron)
                Renovation: Kings North(Front 9) -- ST Byrd

SUMMARY: 
79    Public
12.5 Private  Wach Plant - Reserve Litch - Debordieu - Surf - GD Members - St James (4.5)
        Bald Head - Compass Pointe - The Dunes(Limited Package play)
91.5 Total

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@artmbgolf Really appreciate it!


   
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Regarding the various hybrid green types, they all look the same 
if maintained the same.   I don't feel we can alter our game when 
knowing the Hybrid Green type.  
  
Bent is different. 
 
The Tifdwarf Bermuda is usually slower with more grain.  

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@artmbgolf agreed on Bent being different than Bermuda.  But I believe there is nuance among the Ultradwarf Bermudagrass.

TifEagle, potentially due to it being a bred and not naturally occurring, tends to have more grain than the other Ultradwarfs.

Miniverde, due to having the deepest roots of the Ultrtadwarf, tends to be quicker.

Champions has a shallower root system.  This can prove difficult during times of high stress.

Sunday Ultradwarf Bermudagrass has fine texture, smooth roll, and is most similar to Bentgrass.

Although exceedingly less common, Tifdwarf is notorious for off-type infestation.  These weedier grasses disrupt the consistency of the putting surface.

I like to operate off the NBC PSA from my childhood - “The More You Know.”


   
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Great, historical MB Golf information, very cool .

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