Man that is terrible for everyone in MB. that is going to be a lot of empty hotel rooms.
Brownwood Bandit
It is already quite a test for our « mental toughness »...
Denis Gilbert
Quebec City, Canada
Going to be a tough time for all business in MB and area.
Ghost Town...Shocking. Going to be this bad in West Palm too... County closed my facility at 4:00pm Wednesday with out warning. Even my Director of Parks was caught Flat Footed.
County closed my facility at 4:00pm Wednesday with out warning
Sorry to hear about your situattion
Golf is just an excuse to drink whiskey and smoke cigars
Is North Carolina where most of the open courses are now?
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Golf and the Coronavirus
A Golf Course is the Safest Place to Be.
Last week, Winter Park, Florida closed its wonderful 9-hole golf course
because of the Wuhan Flu. Give me a break! A golf course is the single
safest place you can be.
Let’s skip all the stuff about how evil COVID-19 is or how overhyped the
epidemic is. I’ve written about that elsewhere. Let’s assume that the
Anthony Fauci MD is giving the President good advice. So how do golf courses fit in?
Golf is played OUTDOORS. Your grandmother told you to go outdoors when
you were sick. She knew it would help you get better. She didn’t know about
“UV” and “viruses,” but she knew what worked. Our modern medical science
hasn’t changed this key fact. It has just helped us understand it.
Even when you are playing in rainy Scotland, the sun’s UV rays reach the surface.
If you are outside, you are being bombarded. So is your golf ball, your golf clubs,
the bunker rake, the pin, and the cup. Even that piece of pool noodle around the
bottom of the pin gets irradiated. The Journal of Virology states that “UV radiation
from the sun is the primary germicide in the environment.” “Sunlight or, more
specifically, solar UV radiation (UV) acts as the principal natural virucide in the
environment. UV radiation kills viruses by chemically modifying their genetic
material, DNA and RNA.” Research on this is limited, but the basic fact is that
sunlight sterilizes anything left outside, even your riding cart.
So what do we do with the various approaches to sterilizing golf courses? One of
them may actually make a little sense: cleaning carts with clorox wipes or spray.
But that was sensible before. After all, every employee has to wash his hands
after using the toilet, supposedly to reduce infection risk. This is similar.
You should get to rent clean equipment.
Two club lengths between players on the course or practice green? Really?
How often are you within that distance during a round? Almost never. But what
about limiting players to one in a cart? That is closer, but usually you are riding
with a friend, likely even a friend you rode to the course with. The better choice
is allowing single riding when requested, but even that’s not likely to be an issue.
The key with the six foot figure is “face to face.” If you are facing someone and
spit while you’re talking or cough without covering, you’ll get spittle on them.
That’s an infection risk for everything, including the common cold. Riding side
by side and not facing each other means that the six foot figure is not as useful.
“No seed/sand bottles.” Since you will usually use the one on your side of the
cart, and it’s being exposed to UV all the time, this seems to be less than useful,
and it will lead to course maintenance issues.
“Flagsticks in” — Really? Again, the flagstick is constantly bombarded with UV.
If you take it out, and then hand it to your buddy while you putt, there’s a
theoretical risk of infection, but there’s that much risk from your elbow
bump after the birdie.
“Cups Up” You’ve got to be kidding. That means the putt that was clobbered on
a good line will be counted as holed, rather than bouncing feet away for a
testing come-backer. If we’re talking about the variation where a piece of pool
noodle is used to reduce the depth of the cup, that makes some sense, and
yesterday I found it to actually be convenient. It makes taking the ball out
easier.
“No rakes” This is the same rationale as the other nonsense. But rakes are
used far less often than flagsticks, and would have more chance of being sterile
than a flagstick.
In short, the real answer is your grandmother’s. “Go outside and play! All that
other stuff is nonsense, and the “abundance of caution” approach is based on
fear, not any sort of factual basis.
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Man, this sucks for everyone. My prayer for everyone is to get through this safe and healthy.
We can never get this time back.....but I'll certainly try my dam'est to make up for it once the handcuffs come off!
Golf and the Coronavirus
A Golf Course is the Safest Place to Be.
Last week, Winter Park, Florida closed its wonderful 9-hole golf course
because of the Wuhan Flu. Give me a break! A golf course is the single
safest place you can be.Let’s skip all the stuff about how evil COVID-19 is or how overhyped the
epidemic is. I’ve written about that elsewhere. Let’s assume that the
Anthony Fauci MD is giving the President good advice. So how do golf courses fit in?
Golf is played OUTDOORS. Your grandmother told you to go outdoors when
you were sick. She knew it would help you get better. She didn’t know about
“UV” and “viruses,” but she knew what worked. Our modern medical science
hasn’t changed this key fact. It has just helped us understand it.Even when you are playing in rainy Scotland, the sun’s UV rays reach the surface.
If you are outside, you are being bombarded. So is your golf ball, your golf clubs,
the bunker rake, the pin, and the cup. Even that piece of pool noodle around the
bottom of the pin gets irradiated. The Journal of Virology states that “UV radiation
from the sun is the primary germicide in the environment.” “Sunlight or, more
specifically, solar UV radiation (UV) acts as the principal natural virucide in the
environment. UV radiation kills viruses by chemically modifying their genetic
material, DNA and RNA.” Research on this is limited, but the basic fact is that
sunlight sterilizes anything left outside, even your riding cart.So what do we do with the various approaches to sterilizing golf courses? One of
them may actually make a little sense: cleaning carts with clorox wipes or spray.
But that was sensible before. After all, every employee has to wash his hands
after using the toilet, supposedly to reduce infection risk. This is similar.
You should get to rent clean equipment.Two club lengths between players on the course or practice green? Really?
How often are you within that distance during a round? Almost never. But what
about limiting players to one in a cart? That is closer, but usually you are riding
with a friend, likely even a friend you rode to the course with. The better choice
is allowing single riding when requested, but even that’s not likely to be an issue.The key with the six foot figure is “face to face.” If you are facing someone and
spit while you’re talking or cough without covering, you’ll get spittle on them.
That’s an infection risk for everything, including the common cold. Riding side
by side and not facing each other means that the six foot figure is not as useful.“No seed/sand bottles.” Since you will usually use the one on your side of the
cart, and it’s being exposed to UV all the time, this seems to be less than useful,
and it will lead to course maintenance issues.“Flagsticks in” — Really? Again, the flagstick is constantly bombarded with UV.
If you take it out, and then hand it to your buddy while you putt, there’s a
theoretical risk of infection, but there’s that much risk from your elbow
bump after the birdie.“Cups Up” You’ve got to be kidding. That means the putt that was clobbered on
a good line will be counted as holed, rather than bouncing feet away for a
testing come-backer. If we’re talking about the variation where a piece of pool
noodle is used to reduce the depth of the cup, that makes some sense, and
yesterday I found it to actually be convenient. It makes taking the ball out
easier.“No rakes” This is the same rationale as the other nonsense. But rakes are
used far less often than flagsticks, and would have more chance of being sterile
than a flagstick.In short, the real answer is your grandmother’s. “Go outside and play! All that
other stuff is nonsense, and the “abundance of caution” approach is based on
fear, not any sort of factual basis.
I agree 100% with everything written above
jw11
"King Of The Mid-tiers"
I have watched a lot of CV coverage on TV and read reports.
Some stats I have not seen anything about:
** % of patients on a ventilator who recover.
** % with CV that recover.
** If they deduct recoveries from cases.
I was arriving in MB on April 22. The hotel has canceled that, changing my
arrival to May 1. Group starts May 3. With CV appearing to get worse, MB
probably won't happen this Spring, but no need to cancel yet.
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Art, 100's of milder cases up in Canada have been reported, many have recovered enough and are free to go home from the Hospitals, the ones on a Respirator/Ventilator are still facing a long road to get rid of the Covid-19 Virus, unfortunately none yet have made it.
Hopefully your Group will get to MB, me, just hoping by November that we can get down.
Ghost Town...Shocking. Going to be this bad in West Palm too... County closed my facility at 4:00pm Wednesday with out warning. Even my Director of Parks was caught Flat Footed.
I sincerely feel bad for you!
Don't give up!
Denis Gilbert
Quebec City, Canada
Art, 100's of milder cases up in Canada have been reported, many have recovered enough and are free to go home from the Hospitals, the ones on a Respirator/Ventilator are still facing a long road to get rid of the Covid-19 Virus, unfortunately none yet have made it.
Hopefully your Group will get to MB, me, just hoping by November that we can get down.
With CV cases increasing, a MB trip isn't likely the day MB is scheduled to
reopen, since closings could be extended.
We will be looking for CV improvement to get courses open at home.
Then more improvement for MB in the Fall.
During cold springs, I have gone to MB without playing any rounds at home,
but I have always had multiple range visits before the trip. Even our ranges
are closed due to CV.
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